tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post4615897290919333555..comments2020-05-03T09:59:54.179-07:00Comments on Up For Discussion: Canada Has No Abortion Laws...what?Brandonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06729511022505491011noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post-57166399387161513442012-02-15T18:00:53.863-08:002012-02-15T18:00:53.863-08:00The decision you quote from is the ruling of the S...The decision you quote from is the ruling of the Supreme Court to strike down the law that allowed a panel of doctors to prohibit a woman from having an abortion. That existing law was perhaps (as the article I link to suggests) poorly written. The Court cannot write law and our government has failed to address this issue which is why we currently have no laws at all protecting the rights of the unborn.<br /><br />As there has never been a referendum on this issue we cannot say with certainty what the majority of Canadians believe. Further, in the post above, I am not suggesting that abortion be illegal but simply questioning why the procedure (when there is no risk to the mother) which is completely elective is covered by medicare. <br /><br />Lastly, I would argue this isn't about "getting my way" but rather about what's morally right. The Supreme Court can rule as it did if it has no direction about where life begins. If the fetus is alive and considered a person then the law has a responsibility to protect that life. As it stands right now, the fetus has no rights because it isn't viewed as being alive. I think that's as wrong as 18th C Western Europeans view of black slaves. I think it's as wrong as how society used to view women as lesser citizens. <br /><br />We do such a good job of fighting for the visible underdog...why are we silent on the invisible underdog?Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06729511022505491011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post-68716979791558245552012-02-15T17:27:00.808-08:002012-02-15T17:27:00.808-08:00Because you live in a secular society where the ma...Because you live in a secular society where the majority doesn't agree with you. You don't always get your way.<br /><br />"The right to liberty... guarantees a degree of personal autonomy over important decisions intimately affecting his or her private life. ... The decision whether or not to terminate a pregnancy is essentially a moral decision and in a free and democratic society, the conscience of the individual must be paramount to that of the state." (from the 1988 Canada Supreme Court decision)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post-12508349467658755592012-02-15T14:29:40.861-08:002012-02-15T14:29:40.861-08:00Thanks anonymous. My argument isn't that it&#...Thanks anonymous. My argument isn't that it's a waste of tax payers dollars (it may or may not be...I'm not taking a stance on that issue). My argument is why am I--a person who holds that ALL life, including the life of the unborn, is sacrosanct--being forced to pay for the equivalent of elective surgery?<br /><br />Thank you for pointing out the costs of life and for clarifying that the "cost" is not at all my objection.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06729511022505491011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post-82298216704672243122012-02-15T14:15:00.225-08:002012-02-15T14:15:00.225-08:00Your argument about the cost of abortion being a w...Your argument about the cost of abortion being a waste of tax dollars may not be valid. The average cost of a normal vaginal delivery is $2,700 and caesarian deliveries average out to $4,600. This does not include pre-natal visits, ultrasounds, etc. Nor does it include the costs of deliveries where there are complications, in which case the costs skyrocket.<br /><br />If abortions were no longer covered by health care, it would undoubtedly force some women to carry their babies to term because they would not be able to afford the abortion. If that is the point you are going for then congratulations, but $800 vs. $3000 is not good math to the already strained health care system and I can pretty much guarantee that those are the numbers that the law-makers are looking at.<br /><br />I am not pro-abortion by any means but I am realistic. Abortions happen and will always happen. I do agree that there should be some guidelines in place and I agree with the majority of what you have said here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post-35672032664720629372011-09-29T16:10:22.048-07:002011-09-29T16:10:22.048-07:00By that same token, old people and those on life s...By that same token, old people and those on life support also over-burden the system. I think we should also extend abortion to them.dwaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07945241539900279521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7944029565868546188.post-35755339958136920942011-08-09T09:07:50.986-07:002011-08-09T09:07:50.986-07:00What is the socio economic status of the mothers t...What is the socio economic status of the mothers that are having these abortions? Are they upper middle class woman that just find it “inconvenient” to have a baby due to career demands or other things going on in their lives? If that is the case then I completely agree that we should NOT be funding these selective procedures….. <br />I do however suspect that most terminated pregnancies are being done by low income, disadvantaged, young/teen moms. For these moms I feel we should continue to offer them choice by funding their procedures. My fear is that if we don’t cover these procedures we are facing a much larger burden of raising their children through welfare and other social services all funded by our tax dollars. How does the cost compare? I don’t know, but I suspect it is a better use of tax dollars to fund the procedure for young mothers than to pay to raise their children.Sherry Dycknoreply@blogger.com